EP 68: There’s a 4th Trimester!? With Katie Grant

There's a 4th Trimester? with Katie Grant

Did you know there actually is a 4th trimester to birthing a child? An important period of transition after giving birth. My guest shares her difficult period during this time she had imagined would be very different.

Once you’ve listened, share your takeaways or ask questions in your dedicated FB podcast group

What We Talked About

  • Defining postpartum anxiety and depression
  • How a postpartum doula can help you navigate early parenthood
  • Loneliness and the need to have company as a new parent
  • The reality of the Fourth trimester and learning what you need as a new parents
  • The importance of holding to your instinctual power 
  • Breastfeeding and formula and the importance of hiring a lactation specialist

Things to Remember

“If there’s any way to put even half as much attention on yourself as you do on your baby, it would be so beneficial.”

“Whatever the mother needs is OK. Baby will be fine.”

“Hold onto your power. Your instinct is the one that is right.”

-Katie Grant

“You do not have to suffer in silence or feel ashamed. Our babies need us to be healthy during a time when we are overwhelmed the most.” – Brittany Willow Mayer

Truth: You are not alone. You are not to blame. With help, you will be well.

Additional Resources

12 questions to ask yourself with those closest to you

Learn more about Perinatal Mood & Anxiety Disorders


Little Honey Money

UCLA article Katie mentioned about Breastfeeding

Book: SuperBetter: The Power of Living Gamefully by Jane McGonigal

App: SuperBetter

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Now, Katie and I want to know from you!

Did you know there would be a fourth trimester? How did you navigate this period of parenting? Listen in to find your answers.

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More About my Guest

Katie Grant is an award-winning freelance writer, ghostwriter and copywriter based in
Southern California who crafts people’s stories into articles, essays and books. She is a Top Writer in Parenting on Medium.

Katie has a degree in storytelling from The Colorado College and spent 20 years as an actor. She now uses that talent to step inside her clients’ shoes to write in their voice. 

When not writing, Katie chases her kindergartner around, bakes or watches movie screeners with her TV editor husband in. 

Fun fact: she was a sub and Spanish teacher at a Montessori school and raises her daughter with a Montessori focus.

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